Career Interview

Career Interview

An ENTJ's experience of working in the public sector.

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This is an interview from our career-interview series where we get to hear first hand about different career directions that people have taken. In order to allow the discussion to be as open as possible, we have anonymised this interview transcript. The interviewee has an ENTJ profile ('Commander') which typically brings together the ability to be articulate, creative and decisive.

How would you describe your career in 30 seconds?

During my degree, I got a work experience opportunity in local government – helping them launch a newsletter. I leveraged the experience of working there in my degree dissertation. After my degree, I took a role doing market research, which was in line with the recommendations of the career department. I was then invited back to the placement organisation. In retrospect, I should have said no as I wasn’t ready to focus on being in the public sector, but the salary was too good to turn down.

I then got a chance to move into a role working with the local university in a role that was relatively entrepreneurial, which I enjoyed – although had to spend a lot of my time juggling different ‘bosses’. This role led to a fair bit of travel and meeting a huge variety of people. I then returned to local government with a focus on supporting and helping local businesses grow. I’ve stayed in the public sector since.

What have been the 'best bits' of your career?

I’ve been lucky in that every role I’ve done has had some good moments. I really like travel and have got to go from Singapore to New York. I’m also very much a people person and like to interact with others – and being able to work across different cultures was fascinating. Most recently I’ve focused on being able to help people, from students to my direct reports to my clients. I really enjoy this – I guess you might say that I like to be wanted!

What things would you do differently?

When I joined the public sector, I knew it might be hard to leave. And, at one point, when I did look for roles in the private sector, it was difficult. People have the assumption that public sector employees cannot adjust to working in ‘dynamic’ private businesses. I’m sure that may be right for some people, just not all… In retrospect, I should have spent more time in the private sector before moving across.

If you were to meet the 20-year old verson of you, what career advice would you give?

Well, at the time of going to university, I had a thought I might go into politics. My father (who was a successful salesman) took a pragmatic view on this – and when I said that I doubted I would ever work in politics – he advised me away and I ended up doing business. I don’t think this was a bad choice, it’s allowed me to have a huge variety of roles which was important as I bore easily! I never fancied a large corporate, or a job in finance – and now I would tell a younger me to stick to your guns on these points.

I’ve taken the goal of not regretting any role I’ve done. Focus on what I enjoy and get to the end of each day and be happy with the day I’ve had. Maybe this lack of ‘ruthlessness’ is a fault, and maybe I have prioritised a bit too much on being happy, over earning more. I don’t regret this, but maybe if I’d considered this trade-off earlier in my career, I’d have made different decisions.

What advice would you give people on working for the public sector?

I would definitely advise people to get some private sector experience first. They should also consider how they would fit into the culture. The public sector is huge, and so it works in a very controlled way. If you are creative and entrepreneurial, it may not be right for you. That’s not to say you can’t be entrepreneurial – and in fact at one point in my career, me and a few colleagues got a reputation for pushing the boundaries, however you need to recognise that the standard way of working is very structured. The other thing I’d say is don’t stay too long if you don’t want to stay forever.

Any final thoughts about your career?

I’ve learned that a lot of people are out there for themselves. You need to decide to what extent that’s you, and to what extent you have a social conscience. In other words, decide what’s important to you. You do need to like your job and to like yourself in your job.

If I have one regret, it’s about not having a skeletal plan of my career. Not so I could have had more pressure or could have beat myself up if I didn’t achieve, but to have had more of a coordinated approach to the roles I’ve taken. It can take time to work out what you do want to do – and finding the right objective for you can be hard (particularly if there are people around you who have their own ideas of what you should do). In short, I think there’s a lot of value to having a ‘plan’ to keep this question alive.
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